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	<title>Comments on: APNG</title>
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	<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/</link>
	<description>Ramblings from the mind of Stuart Parmenter</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PAStheLoD</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2774</link>
		<dc:creator>PAStheLoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some "moar" info: http://animatedpng.com/index.php/samples/3d-apngs/ I've noticed this bug just with the first one. (Loaded them via "View image" and ctrl-f5, separately.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some &#8220;moar&#8221; info: <a href="http://animatedpng.com/index.php/samples/3d-apngs/" rel="nofollow">http://animatedpng.com/index.php/samples/3d-apngs/</a> I&#8217;ve noticed this bug just with the first one. (Loaded them via &#8220;View image&#8221; and ctrl-f5, separately.)</p>
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		<title>By: PAStheLoD</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2773</link>
		<dc:creator>PAStheLoD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2008012304 Minefield/3.0b3pre it does that flickering.

APNG is great, I'm suprised that I've never heard of it before, thanks for the mention :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2008012304 Minefield/3.0b3pre it does that flickering.</p>
<p>APNG is great, I&#8217;m suprised that I&#8217;ve never heard of it before, thanks for the mention <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Miroslav Glavic</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2772</link>
		<dc:creator>Miroslav Glavic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have noticed the flickering, but the APNG's are awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed the flickering, but the APNG&#8217;s are awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2771</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm getting high CPU usage when the apng is visible.

Linux 3ld.sld.edu 2.6.18-53.1.6.el5 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 03:56:43 EST 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9b3pre) Gecko/2008012404 Minefield/3.0b3pre ID:2008012404</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting high CPU usage when the apng is visible.</p>
<p>Linux 3ld.sld.edu 2.6.18-53.1.6.el5 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 03:56:43 EST 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux</p>
<p>Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9b3pre) Gecko/2008012404 Minefield/3.0b3pre ID:2008012404</p>
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		<title>By: José Jeria</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2770</link>
		<dc:creator>José Jeria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera 9.5 waits for the frame to be loaded before showing the next one. This results in slow animation while loading, and then faster once all of the frames are loaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera 9.5 waits for the frame to be loaded before showing the next one. This results in slow animation while loading, and then faster once all of the frames are loaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2769</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minefield 2008012404 on Ubuntu Gutsy uses 40% of my CPU (an old Athlon XP 1600+) when the animation is shown, when scrolled offscreen CPU usage goes down to normal. Actually it's Xorg and Minefield together which use so much CPU and not Minefield alone. That's pretty hefty for such a simple animation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minefield 2008012404 on Ubuntu Gutsy uses 40% of my CPU (an old Athlon XP 1600+) when the animation is shown, when scrolled offscreen CPU usage goes down to normal. Actually it&#8217;s Xorg and Minefield together which use so much CPU and not Minefield alone. That&#8217;s pretty hefty for such a simple animation.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Kayser</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2768</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Kayser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is quite simple: the image loader tries to display partly loaded animation frames (i.e. any frames after the first are displayed even if not completely loaded, but due to the speed of the animation, before it has loaded completely, the next (partial) frame is displayed). 

So the effect only happens during the load of the image, and the load needs to be slower than the animation.

The fix is simple: don't do incremental display of animation frames (just wait for the full frame before displaying it). This is also done for GIF animations, and that works for years now.

See bug 413933 where I will submit a patch this evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is quite simple: the image loader tries to display partly loaded animation frames (i.e. any frames after the first are displayed even if not completely loaded, but due to the speed of the animation, before it has loaded completely, the next (partial) frame is displayed). </p>
<p>So the effect only happens during the load of the image, and the load needs to be slower than the animation.</p>
<p>The fix is simple: don&#8217;t do incremental display of animation frames (just wait for the full frame before displaying it). This is also done for GIF animations, and that works for years now.</p>
<p>See bug 413933 where I will submit a patch this evening.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2767</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Fx3 2008010104, the first time I viewed the image on your blog, it was rendered incorrectly as you described. The second time (an hour later but still in the same session), it looked fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Fx3 2008010104, the first time I viewed the image on your blog, it was rendered incorrectly as you described. The second time (an hour later but still in the same session), it looked fine.</p>
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		<title>By: bharuch</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2766</link>
		<dc:creator>bharuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind. The dolphin flickers on pavlov.net also. Hm. But only the first load it seems!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind. The dolphin flickers on pavlov.net also. Hm. But only the first load it seems!</p>
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		<title>By: bharuch</title>
		<link>http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/01/24/apng/#comment-2765</link>
		<dc:creator>bharuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't get the flickering load on yoursite, feedhouse, or planet; and only on the animatedpng.com site on the cube &#38; monkey occasionally. I'm using FF3b2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get the flickering load on yoursite, feedhouse, or planet; and only on the animatedpng.com site on the cube &amp; monkey occasionally. I&#8217;m using FF3b2.</p>
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